champagnecharlie41
New Member
All over YA people (mainly US citizens) keep saying that the Chinese gymnasts cheated.<br />
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If cheating means breaking the rules let us look at who has been proven to cheat.<br />
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The IOC (a WESTERN body ratified by the USA) created the RULES for protest. <br />
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Protest was made about the the age of Chinese gymnasts and there were found to be no grounds for further investigation.<br />
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A second protest was lodged and a second investigation undertaken and again there were no grounds for further investigation.<br />
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No grounds were found for objection because every proof of evidential standard requested by the IOC was provided by the Chinese.<br />
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In other words, under the rules, whether you like it or not, whether you GUESS otherwise or not, the Chinese gymnasts were found to be of the correct age.<br />
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These are the rules... and to ignore the rules is to cheat, therefore all of you who are too petty to accept that decision, merely because you dislike it and diagree with it ARE THE CHEATS!<br />
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You are cheating by making groundless accusations when your allegations have had not one, but two "days in court".<br />
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You talk of the precedent of Chinese cheating but are offended if the precedent of cheats from your countries are named (and let's be honest, there have been more than a few over the years).<br />
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Is that not cheating too?<br />
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We are all faced with decisions that we do not like from time to time. Some of those decisions are made under rules that our own systems ratify because they are the best rules we can create.<br />
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We are honour bound to abide by the decisions.<br />
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Would there not be more honour in accepting the decision of the investigation and offering congratulations to the Chinese than there is in continuing to make accusations for which there is no proof?<br />
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What do you think?<br />
Yes Jessica... I've seen you rabidly, I mean rabbitly being anti Chinese gymnast before, so it is little wonder you rant at a reasoned question not in your favour!<br />
Semicharmed, it was not my intention to say that all Americans on YA were cheats. I apologise if it read that way.<br />
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My intention was to say that the people on YA who are saying that the Chinese HAVE cheated, without proof and before the matter is proven or disproven, by the same standard, must be cheats themselves.<br />
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Oh and as usual you are a voice of reason here and I agree with you entirely. If the investigation does indeed PROVE that there is something to answer then there must be a reckoning of monumental proportions! <br />
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Until then, however, I must reiterate that the Chinese are innocent until PROVEN guilty.<br />
<br />
If cheating means breaking the rules let us look at who has been proven to cheat.<br />
<br />
The IOC (a WESTERN body ratified by the USA) created the RULES for protest. <br />
<br />
Protest was made about the the age of Chinese gymnasts and there were found to be no grounds for further investigation.<br />
<br />
A second protest was lodged and a second investigation undertaken and again there were no grounds for further investigation.<br />
<br />
No grounds were found for objection because every proof of evidential standard requested by the IOC was provided by the Chinese.<br />
<br />
In other words, under the rules, whether you like it or not, whether you GUESS otherwise or not, the Chinese gymnasts were found to be of the correct age.<br />
<br />
These are the rules... and to ignore the rules is to cheat, therefore all of you who are too petty to accept that decision, merely because you dislike it and diagree with it ARE THE CHEATS!<br />
<br />
You are cheating by making groundless accusations when your allegations have had not one, but two "days in court".<br />
<br />
You talk of the precedent of Chinese cheating but are offended if the precedent of cheats from your countries are named (and let's be honest, there have been more than a few over the years).<br />
<br />
Is that not cheating too?<br />
<br />
We are all faced with decisions that we do not like from time to time. Some of those decisions are made under rules that our own systems ratify because they are the best rules we can create.<br />
<br />
We are honour bound to abide by the decisions.<br />
<br />
Would there not be more honour in accepting the decision of the investigation and offering congratulations to the Chinese than there is in continuing to make accusations for which there is no proof?<br />
<br />
What do you think?<br />
Yes Jessica... I've seen you rabidly, I mean rabbitly being anti Chinese gymnast before, so it is little wonder you rant at a reasoned question not in your favour!<br />
Semicharmed, it was not my intention to say that all Americans on YA were cheats. I apologise if it read that way.<br />
<br />
My intention was to say that the people on YA who are saying that the Chinese HAVE cheated, without proof and before the matter is proven or disproven, by the same standard, must be cheats themselves.<br />
<br />
Oh and as usual you are a voice of reason here and I agree with you entirely. If the investigation does indeed PROVE that there is something to answer then there must be a reckoning of monumental proportions! <br />
<br />
Until then, however, I must reiterate that the Chinese are innocent until PROVEN guilty.<br />